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can scan your brain, and they can tell you who you are thinking about. hmmm. okay. >> eric: bob. >> dana: that was not a bob look. the barbara bush foundation for family literacy has a new contest. it's called ve lotedly -- devotedly dad. you go and you can write your children a letter. contest winners will choose two from each state. get the new book "all the best" collection of letters from george h.w. bush and pair of his favorite fun first family socks. a great way for parents to communicator their children. rather than just by text message, write a full letter is a special thing for your kids to have. >> eric: absolutely. >> greg: i wish dana would stop expressing herself with
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the naked centerfold pictures of her dog on twitter. if i see his junk one more time -- >> andrea: jasper junk? >> greg: yes! you should be thrown in jail. >> dana: jasper junk. freddie banned phrase. misspoke. when they say i misspoke, they really mean i told the truth and got called in an office by my boss who said retract. then come out and say i misspoke. >> eric: or they say i was fast and loose with the dialogue. something to that effect. didn't you ban it ever? >> greg: i thought i did but i went back and probably talked about it. >> andrea: rebanned it. >> eric: banned archive. wasn't there. >> eric: show the picture. this is true economic stimulus. doritos locos taco bell. ready? they sold 375 million of those in a year. more than 1 million per day. it required 15,000 new hires by taco bell to -- >> andrea: what do you think
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mayor bloomberg thinks about that? >> eric: or michelle obama for that matter. >> dana: president obama probably thinks i wish i could have one. >> eric: that's it. go to go. see you tomorrow, everybody. ♪ >> bret: the next generation of republican presidential hopefuls goes on display in washington. this is "special report." ♪ ♪ >> bret: good evening. i'm bret baier. conservative republicans many shell-shocked over losing in november are licking their wounds and focus on the future. this weekend here in the washington area. conservative political action conference or cpac is underway. features some from elections past and the hopes of elections yet to come. for republicans. chief political correspondent carl cameron has the top story. >> the 2013 political conservative ; conference,
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cpac the first presidential cattle call and fresh new faces led off. >> ly tell you what the criticism on the left will be. they didn't offer new ideas. there is the fallacy of it. we tonight need a new idea. there is an idea. the idea is called america. it still works. >> marco rubio, the florida u.s. senator of cuban descent who could help expand the party minority to women steered clear of the bipartisan proposal for rigorous defense of conservative social policy. >> because i believe state should define marriage in tratitionm way does not make me a bigot. just because we believe all life, all human life is worthy of protection on every stage of this development, does not make you a chauvinist. >> after rubio came rand paul. tea party favorite whose 13-hour filibuster captured national attention. we offered stark contrast to new ideas aren't needed on the right, offering libertarian
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argument for g.o.p. change. >> the g.o.p. of old has grown stale and moss covered. the new g.o.p. will need to embrace liberty in the economic and the personal sphere. >> others eyeing the white house or being urged to address cpac are jeb bush, louisiana governor bobby jindal and wisconsin governor scott walker who share cpac concern that the republicans not abandon core principles and misguided overreaction to last year election defeat. some including mitt romney, sarah palin, michele bachmann, newt gingrich and even donald trump plan to share lessons learned from past campaign defeat for those mulling over future contest. rick santorum has not ruled out running again. neither has fellow 2012 con zesttant rick perry who says he supports legitimate government. just not unlimited government. two popular governors were snubbed by cpac. new jersey governor chris christie for praising the president's response to super storm sandy and expanding
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medicaid in garden state. virginia's bob mcdonald who raised taxes to pay for overdue transportation projects in his state. cpac officials make no apologies for not inviting christie or mcdonald saying they hope that next year they will deserve an invitation to cpac 2014. one other thing, bret. the night before last in my report on the federal employees delinquent in their taxes, i talked about an i.r.s. report saying one in ten treasury department officials were delinquent on the taxes. it's 1 in 100. apologies to treasury and i don't want the i.r.s. mad at me. >> bret: thank you. president obama met again today with the harshest critics. congressional republicans. this time, the president got together with g.o.p. senators. while the budget is the focus, a relatively small issue in dollars continues to loom large. correspondent shannon bream is at the white house. >> the administration fired back, criticism regarding the cancellation of white house tours. coming from a source not normally viewed as a critic.
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the editorial board of the "washington post." equated the decision to "bureaucratic hostage-taking" and said the pushback the administration is getting is a proper come uppance. >> it's a misunderstanding of the sequester. because the sequester is a law written and passed by congress that is specific about what can and can't be done. when it comes to im -- implementation. >> the white house is taking fresh criticism how sequestration impacting education funding assistance for active duty military members. marine corps today calling the cuts necessary to support semiprograms on the health, readiness of the corps. the president spent another day making rounds on capitol
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hill. meeting first with the senate republicans who had a split opinion on how it went. >> we'll see where we go from here. but it was a great meeting. >> not so according to john cornyn who said after today's meeting it is clear to me that balancing our budget and cutting bloated washington spending are not president obama's top priorities. then it was across the hill and across party lines to meet with house democrats. >> economy is trying to give us signs it wants to launch. the president wants to be there to make sure that the 535 elected members in congress. and the individual american people elected to be president of the united states are ready to launch with the economy. >> also today, treasury secretary jack lew talked about the possibility of finding bipartisan compromise. >> i think there is a growing sense that everyone knows where the balance fair deal is. everyone knows we need to get there. they just don't know how to get there. you have to start. >> today, as far as discussions about reinstating
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some of the white house tours ts in, in the briefing jay carney says there has been discussions about trying to get specific groups in. no decision on that point and no plans to reverse the overall decision to suspend tours for now. >> bret: shannon bream live on the white house lawn. thank you. the dow's run is now in double digits. the industrial average made it ten straight winning days to gain 84 today. closing at another record high. s&p 500 was up 9. the nasdaq finished ahead 14. senate democrats have pushed a new assault weapons ban through committee. chief congressional correspondent mike emanuel tells us tonight the process saw rhetorical shots being fired from both sides. >> the second amendment and the bill o right provide the right of the people to bear arms shall not be infringed. >> before they approved a new assault weapons ban by 10-8 party line vote, texas republican ted cruz challenged the author, democrat dianne feinstein on the constitution. >> the question i would pose to the senior senator from
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california is would she deem it consistent with the bill of rights for congress to engage in the same endeavor that we are contemplating doing with the second amendment in the context of the first or fourth amendment? >> senator veteran feinstein was not amused. >> i'm not a sixth grader. senator, i have been on this committee for 20 years. it study the constitution myself. i am reasonably well educated. and i thank you for the lecture. >> the fireworks were not shocking considering the emotion on both sides over gun control. this legislation is the most controversial of the four considered by the judiciary committee following the newtown connecticut school shooting which left 20 children and six adults dead. the measure would ban manufacturer, sale and use of 157 firearms. it would limit ammunition magazines to ten rounds. leading republican says it isn't fair to law-abiding citizens seeking protection. >> it's not much satisfaction to say that criminals will have access to whole range of
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weapons they will have access to. because they don't care about the laws that are passed. we are going to give the american citizen a peashooter to defend themselves with. >> at the white house, spokesman jay carney described the legislation as important part of the president's effort to curb gun violence and called for more action. >> wial congress to vote on and pass this legislation. and other common sense measures like requiring a background check for all gun purchases. cracking down on gun trafficking. >> there will be presidential pressure. but rural democrats are not eager to take the vote. i isn't going anywhere in the house. bret? >> bret: mike emanuel on the hill. thanks. sometimes you can't even trust the church to tell you about the new pope. we'll explain that in the grapevine. up next, pope francis is already breaking the mold. my wife takes centrum silver. i've been on the fence about it. then i read an article about a study that looked at the long term health benefits of taking multivitamins.
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>> bret: a possible break in the benghazi terror attack investigation. source tells fox news the libyan authorities are questioning a libyan national. they are seeking to determine whether he witnessed the deadly attack on the u.s. mission in libya last september or played a more formal role. four americans died there, including the ambassador. the u.s. slapped financial sanctions on a greek businessman for allegedly operating a secret shipping network on behalf of the iranian government. officials say the purpose was to get around the international sanctions on the iranian oil industry. iranian media say the military test fired several short range missiles in an army exercise in central iran. move that brings the iranian nuclear threat back to focus. >> we take that, it would take over a year or so for iran to actually develop the nuclear weapon. but obviously, we don't want
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to cut it too close. what we are going to be doing is to continue to engage internationally with iran, understanding that we set up the toughest sanctions ever. it is having a significant effect. >> bret: president obama speaking to israeli television. the pentagon also says iranian fighter jet approached the american drone over international waters over the arabian gulf two days ago. u.s. fighter jets responded. one of those fired a flare to warn off the jet and the jet left the area. last iranian jet fired on unarmed drone the u.s. says was in international air space. pope francis is already breaking tradition in his first full day as leader of the catholic church. senior foreign affairs correspondent amy kellogg has day one story from rome. >> reporter: he shunned the papal motorcade for his first outing, where the founder of the jesuits of which he is one used to give mass.
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pope francis went to pick up the suitcases at the hotel where he had been staying and to pay the bill. it seems the new pope may have seen the big day coming. father thomas rosicka ran in to then cardinal bergoglio just before the conclave began. >> just at the end, he took my hands and he said, "pray for me." i said are you nervous? he said, "a little bit." simplicity is so striking and it's not is simplicity that is without a solid foundation. >> fran chrifrancis is the first pope. it wasn't criteria for the choice but it is significant. >> what does that mean? that usually means that he is a man of theological depth, who takes the intellect spirit seriously. it usually means because he is the son of st. ignacious layola he takes the life with immense seriousness. >> reporter: in argentina, his human touch is celebrated. we have to pray a lot.
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last year he washed the feet of a prisoner. that's being a saint. >> thursday, he gave mass for those who elected him in sistine chapel. humble champion of the poor, but those who know him think he has the necessary grit to tidy up the vatican. cardinal dolan says he may have to outsource the bureaucratic work to secretary of state, because he envisions the new latin american pope may want to make trips to new world and beyond. bret? >> bret: amy kellogg is rome. thank you. still ahead, pulling the plug on u.s. aid to egypt. first, what are the nation's top businessmen talks about the economy. unemployment. and the sequester. [ male announcer ] julia child became a famous chef at age 51. picasso painted one of his master works at 56. doris taerbaum finished her first marathon at 50.
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>> bret: tonight, an overview of the u.s. economy from one of america's movers and shakers. fred smith is founder and the boss of fedex. the global shipping giant. he sees reason for both optimism and caution. i started by asking smith for his assessment on where the u.s. economy is right now. >> the u.s. economic growth is relatively modest. our chief economist gene wang who is a very good one, has it at about 2% this year. 2.3% in '14. that is a long time off. about 2.4% worldwide bdp growth this year. maybe going up to 3% next year. a lot of enthusiasm at the moment because some of the numbers that are coming out about housing and retail sales and all are a bit stronger. but you also got the
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tremendous uncertainty because of the fiscal situation in the administration and congressional tailmate here in washington. that is concerning to business. we have uncompetitive corporate tax system. which keeps hundreds of billions of dollars of american company's money offshore. not being invested in the united states. >> bret: we hear that word a lot. "uncertainty." that is real for businesses. >> sure. of course. i mean when you run a large enterprise where you have lots of people's lives wrapped up in the business. and you are spending lots of money on assets for the futur future. which is by definition unknowable, you have to be cautious. you can't manual at the board level what the un -- you can't imagine at the board level what the uncertainty does. the natural default position
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in business is caution. because if you are uncautious, you know, you can go broke. it's not like you are the government where you print more money. you have to take in to account the scenario. that is what the people in washington i think miss enormously. uncertainty has a cost. that cost is restraint in terms of the economic activity. >> bret: what are a couple of things that you would say, you would do to stimulate the economy? >> well, i think the most important thing the united states can do to stimulate the economy is number one, continue to promote production of u.s. energy. this oil and gas revolution we have been through in the last few years is fantastic. it's lowering our need to import oil. that money stays in our economy.
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when we produce a barrel of oil or natural gas in this country we get 80 to 90% of the benefit. if we have to import energy, it's about a dime. so, it has a multiplier effect on our economy. second, we need to reform our corporate tax code. it's unfair. it's not productive. most importantly, it dissuades capital investment. capital ininvestment is almost perfectly correlated with job creation. >> bret: it seems every year we talk about tax reform. >> what has happened is other countries have a much more simple and competitive corporate tax rate. we are the highest now of all the industrialized country. the tax rate at corporate level determined the level of capital expenditures. the top 1,000 companies in the united states account for 60% of all of the capital. the computer, planes, trucks,
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factories, the machines, things that put people to work. we don't see why the corporate tax rate could not be changed. >> bret: you know this town, you talk to the administration and capitol hill. is that realistic? >> i think it is realistic. the president says he is for it. the problem is they are trying to do personal rates which the democrats absolutely oppose being lowered. or any of the exclusions like mortgage interest. charitable deductions to lower them. i think you could carve out the corporate tax system that only provides 10% of the government re-knews. people are always astounded when they find that out. so it is really a very foolish decision to keep the corporate tax rate at uncompetitive level. when we could fix them if we put it over to side and did it. >> do you think as a bids man
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running a big company, that the nation's debt, deficits are problems? >> of course. >> bret: big problems? >> they will become an enormous problem if the trajectory isn't changed. we are the word's reserve currency. we have the ability to do things that other countries don't, because when we put our dollars out there, they are trade to believe any goods. any other currency that you might have. a lot of the problems that other countries have around the world is they don't have a reserve currency. but at certain points even the enormous wealth we have in this country, becomes problematic when you owe as much as your gdp produces in a single year. >> bret: you are heading to china in a few days. obviously have a lot of
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business over there. what is your sense of china and where things are heading? >> guest: i think china is in the midst of a big change. obviously, they have new leadership that has just taken over. china in the middle part of the first decade of this century made some policy changes. which i think have been not good for world trading system. they promote chinese interest over other companies that may be operating there. that they call it indigenous innovation. they are trying to build the economy. in a more managed fashion rather than opening up a lot of their markets, which i think would be much better for the world. much better for china, itself. so they have a number of problems, which they're very vocal about and trying to
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address. hopefully they will liberalize some of these things. and be one of the great locomotives of pulling the train of economic prosperity for the people around the world. >> bret: you look in your crystal ball. what do you see? >> in f the united states can get the fiscal house in order. given the energy revolution that has taken place, i think that the prospect for new boom is very, very substantial. but most of the problems that the democrats and the republicans fight about in washington are most easily solved by faster growth rates. we can get the growth rates up and that solves the fiscal problem much faster than any dole between the democrats and republicans. >> bret: last thing. you have a big family. >> yes. >> bret: it's ten kids? >> yes.
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>> bret: and one of your daughters is a hollywood producer. >> she is. >> bret: molly. >> molly. "the blind side." "p.s.-i love you" and now "the good life" with reese witherspoon. great story. >> bret: now in your family. you were a star in -- >> yes, i thought i was a big part of the success of "cast away," my 18 seconds on screen. tom hanks is the best. bob semekas and bill boyles that did the movie. they wanted to use the fedex background of tom hanks. it's a classic for sure. >> bret: they had to convince you, didn't they? >> they did have to convince me to do it. then i was so bad they cut my part to 18 seconds and put me on a tv screen. i learned that i didn't have much future as a movie actor in, "castaway." >> bret: thank you for your time. >> thank you. >> bret: all right. our thanks to fred smith. that interview is longer than 18 seconds.
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his time in "castaway." you can see all of the interview on our home page. foxnews.com/specialreport. the vice president's press staff strong arms the student reporter and calls it a miscommunication. a really big miscommunication about the new pope. grapevine is next. this day calls you. to fight chronic osteoarthritis pain. to fight chronic low back pain. to take action. to take the next step. today, y will know you did something for your pain. cymbalta can help. cymbalta is a pain reliever fda-approved to manage chronic musculoskeletal pain. one non-narcotic pill a day, every day, can helpeduce this pain. tell your doctor right away if your mood worsens, you have unusual changes in mood or behavior or thoughts of suicide. anti-depressants can increase these in children, teens, and young adults. cymbalta inot for children under 18. people taking maois, linezolid or thioridazine or with uncontrolled glaucoma should not take cymbalta. taking it with nsaid pain relievers, aspirin,
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>> bret: now fresh pickings from the political grapevine. student reporter who is forced by vice president boyd bide's after the to delete picture --
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biden's staff to delete pictures he took at a party. he was covering a domestic violence event attended by biden, eric holder. he tells the capital news service he unknowingly sat in a non-press area and snapped a few pictures. well, biden staffer ordered him then to delete the photos, saying he had an unfair advantage over the other media. university of maryland journalism dean lucy douglas, called the move a fund m fundaml violation of freedom of the press. sequester has government agencies talking about cut and furloughs but not every job is on the chopping block. paid internships for college students appear to have escaped. the same usda warning of fur lowes for meat and poultry inspectors recently posted an opening for a student trainee
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at the animal and plant inspection service in iowa paying more than or up to $24 an hour. nasa is looking for intern for a position is that can pay up to $83,000 a year. that is for an intern. here in washington, the calligraphy budget has received a lot of attention. the white house chief calligrapher makes $96,000. combine her with the other two calligraphyer on the white house staff the tax dollars funds $2770,000 a career in menmapenmanship. so they placed ain i havation on computer to place it side-by-side with the invitation by the pricy calligraphers. can you tell a difference? is it worth it? awkward moment in rome following appearance of white smoke at the vet can yesterday. italian bishops were so convinced that one of their open had been named pope they
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sent a message to the media thanking god for the election of cardinal andrew lescola of milan. ten minutes earlier, cardinal jorge bergoglio of argentina had been introduced as the new pope. pope francis. for political junkies here who is essentially the pay tall version of the 1948 deeew-truman presidential race that truman run. high level inquiry in deaths of 900 protesters ei didn't want's uprising two years ago blaming police and former president hosni mubara mubarak. that is exactly the kind of behavior the u.s. wants to curtail. that leads to examination tonight of america's financial leverage. here is chief national correspondent jim angle. >> at a time, money is tight at home with congress fighting over how much to spend. some argue we should take a closer look at foreign aid. especially egypt where last september demonstrators stormed the u.s. embassy. >> i say not one penny more to
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countries that are burning -- [ inaudible ] >> my problem is egyptian aid and a lot of foreign aid we give foreign aid but we are not sure what we get in return for it. >> so senator rubio introduce a requirement to put conditions on the aid, such as cooperation in counterterrorism. religious libertys, rights for women and especially living up to the 199 peace treaty with israel. the move prompted by secretary of state john kerry recent visit to egypt where he delivered $250 million in economic aid, $260 million promised later. >> it is padres mount, essential, urgent -- is it paramount, essential, urgent that the egyptian economy get stronger and get on its feet. >> giving egypt money without conditions is counterproductive. >> it won't do much to help egypt's economy and it is another example of giving money without getting anything in return. approaching the muslim
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brotherhood government the policy should be that they have to give to get. >> for instance president morsi about the muslim brotherhood allies ended direct relations with israel. often blame israel for incidents in the critical sinai peninsula and called for destruction of israel. but egypt is desperate for economic help from the u.s. and international groups. >> they are asking for major economic aid. they are asking for support at the imf. that should come at a price, especially because of the outlook of this muslim brotherhood government. >> u.s. aid won't ensure the muslim brotherhood changes its way, but the question is if it doesn't should the u.s. send money to bail out the egyptian economy? bret? >> jim, thank you. hard to believe but the 2016 presidential race is on. we'll talk about the first day of cpac. the fox all-stars will be here after the break.
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the g.o.p. of old has grown stale and moss-covered. [ applause ] i don't think we need to name any names, do we? our party is incumbered by an inconsistent approach to freedom. the new g.o.p. will need to embrace liberty in the economic and the personal fear. >> as soon as i'm done speaking i will tell you what the criticism on the left will be. number one, he drank too much water. number two, he didn't offer new ideas. there is the fallacy of it. we don't need a new idea. there is an idea. it's called america. it still works!
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>> bret: bring in the panel. judge andrew napolitano. mara liasson of national public radio. syndicated columnist, charles krauthammer. judge, you saw the speeches. two heavyweights who look like they are running for 2016. >> they do. they resonateed well the crowd. 10,000 people there aconsideredding to carl cameron in three days. i want you to do the math but i was present at the first one in 1973. there were 25 people. second one there were 100. but one of them was a guy named ronald reagan, so this is a movement that started at the very dedicated to small government prescription approximatelys and has grown to significant influence in the republican party. this is a litmus test for republicans seeking the presidential nomination. chris christie is not there. they don't want him. mid-romney is there, they don't want him. sarah palin is there. these guys were superstars. >> your thought on the speeches in >> first, i think rand paul
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and marco rubio represent the two poles of the new generation of the republican leaders. the libertarian tea party wing. marco rubio appeals to the tea party, too, but today he came off as an establishment republican. talked about school choice, free trade. but rand paul gave a rousing libertarian kind of take-no-prisoners speech. legalize some drugs. break up the big banks. don't bail them out. put in a flat tax. he as one of the people crowded to him when he said i have a message for the president. the guy said, "don't drone me, bro." it's the drone thing. also his appeal to young people, which i think he has pushed even farther than his father did. his father brought in young people to the party but rand paul has bigger appeal. >> bret: rand paul is using the filibuster as a -- >> that was a huge thing for him. huge yes. >> bret: came bearing all the stacks of books and said i
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only had ten minutes but just in case i get 13 hours, i have these. charles? >> rubio will always refer to water. rand paul will always refer to the filibuster. that was his moment. that was a theatrical coo. he got lucky. on a snow day that there was no snow day, so nothing was happening in the city, the government was shut down. nothing on c-span except for him. he had a stage. stroke of genius in the way he did it. i think in his speech he made it clear he is a new kind of conservative. like his dad, but clearly the dad had the sharp edges. he had obsession with the gold standard. he looked a little bit cranky. rand is very smooth. he does go against the grain historically on social issues of conservatives. because he really is a libertarian, speaking about the drugs and other things. whereas rubio spoke about sanctity of life and more traditional approach. the big split is on foreign
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affairs. where rand clearly implies he is a semi-isolationnist the mode of his dad. speaking about the drones. he speaks about it as a constitutional issue but is it a withdrawal issue. rubio i think stands strong on that. so there is a real difference of opinion on the fundamentals. >> bret: both candidates addressed that split, judge. take a thereon this. rand paul talk about it wasn't, he said, all about the drones. >> my question was about whether presidential power has limits. you hear the debate about the infighting amongst conservatives and infighting amongst people who believe in limited government. that is a foolish notion. people who disagree on all sorts of things in the real world work together all the time on things they do agree on there. has to be a home, movement in america for people who believe in limited government, constitutional principles, free enterprise system. that should be us.
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[ applause ] >> bret: i guess the question, is there a split? is it fracture inside the g.o.p.? >> in a word, yes. there is no question in my mind to whom senator paul was referring when he words used like "old, stale, moss-covered." he was referring to senator john mccain who called senator paul weirdo. he did it on the senate caucus if private. where i understand he used other words. he did out on the senate floor, place where senators traditionally have not personally sought to offend or name-call their colleagues. senator paul has staked out, as charles said, mara as well, the position of his father. he does it in a more reasonable and broader based way. probably burst a bubble on the scene with that filibuster the other day. where everybody was watching. nerve the country was watching him. he was being cheered even by the left. code pink supports rand paul and sky didn't fall the next
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day. >> bret: i think it was wacko birds that john mccain said. last word, mara? >> rand paul says he is a social issue conservative on abortion, so he is trying to marry the two strains. but he is a pretty pure libertarian on almost everything else. >> yes. >> he found a way to break through with the populist completely uncontroversial proposal that the american government shouldn't kill people with drones on the american soil. i think that he is going to run for president. he isn't making bones about it. i think he will represent that part of the party and it will be a stronger part of the party than it was before. because the wars are winding down and people want to pull back. >> bret: one thing before we go to the next topic there is a booth there. "draft judge andrew napolitano for president 2016." >> i saw it today. >> bret: any relation? do we have any relation to -- >> i think they are referring to me but i don't know who they are. i'm not behind it. >> bret: okay.
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the question i would pose to the senior senator from california would she deem it consistent with the bill of rights for congress to engage in the same endeavor that we are contemplating doing with the second amendment in the context of the first or fourth amendment? >> i'm not a sixth grader. senator, i have been on this committee for 20 years. i was the mayor for nine years. it study the constitution myself -- i study the constitution myself. i'm reasonable well-educate and i thank you for the lecture. incidentally, this does not
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prohibit -- you used the word "prohibit." it exempts 2,271 weapons. isn't that enough for the people in the united states? >> i think nobody doubts her sincerity or her passion, and yet at the same time, i would note she chose not to answer the question -- >> congress is in the business of making law. the supreme court interprets the law. they strike down the law, they strike down the law. >> bret: some fiery exchanges there in the senate judiciary committee there, before they pass an assault weapons ban out of committee, party line vote. 10-8. back with the panel. charles? >> well, it's an interesting exchange. in the end, cruz overshot. his question was, his argument was you wouldn't tamper with the first amendment on free speech for example, the way you are tampering with the second. restricting it by making some weapons illegal. therance that feinstein ended -- the answer that
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feinstein ended up with suggested by dick durbin was yes, we do with the first amendment when we outlaw pornography. so that is a large category of speech that is illegal, and that therefore it isn't absolute every right of the first or the second or the fourth amendment is one that you cannot touch. i thought cruz was -- also the manner which he answered it appeared a little bit offensive. i don't think cruz helped himself. but on the general argument, feinstein's side, even though we won in committee, is going to lose. has no chance in the house. it will probably lose in the senate. >> bret: judge, your take on that exchange? >> i thought senator cruz was terrific for articulating the constitutionalist position of the bill of rights that the government can willy-nilly tamper with the rights and he revealed the fatal flaw in thinking of the big government progressive which was senator feinstein is one. they think they can write any law and regulate any behavior they want, because they're the
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congress and let the supreme court worry about it. they are not faithful to the constitution. notwithstanding their oath as senator cruz would have them be. >> bret: to charles' point about pornography and how that has transpired, that is adjusting the first amendment? >> it is. it is. senator feinstein thinks she can adjust any amendment as long as court doesn't interfere with it. senator cruz would obviously narrow radically the area of human behavior congress can interfere with protected by the bill of rights. >> bret: mara chime in on this. overtall assault weapons ban gets out of committee, but the reality -- >> the reality is it has extremely hard if not impossible time. background checks, something not necessarily even universal but more robust. i think has a pretty good chance. i don't know about the ammunition clips but those three things i would give this the least thing of finally passing. >> bret: okay. so everybody knows, the key provision that we put up on the screen, as dianne feinstein's bill has kind of
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laid it out. there you see the ban of the specific weapon. large capacity magazines. ten-plus rounds. background checks on future transfers. and excluding those specific hunting and sporting rifles of more than 2,200. >> the irony, the white house against senate democrats. the white house, the president has insisted over and over again he wants to sea see a vote on this. senate democrat misin red states are loathe to have a vote on this where they would vote against assault weapons or vote in favor of a ban, because a lot of them are up for re-election. it will hurt them. so you have got the administration, the white house pushing. and democratic senators resisting. that is why i think it doesn't have a chance of pass knowledge the senate. >> bret: judge, how much do you think this effort fires up the g.o.p.? perhaps even some people in the middle. >> i think it does. i think it makes unique
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coalitions as charles pointed out. democratic senators running for re-election. in states that traditionally vote republican for president. it makes people who don't even think about guns all the time because they don't own guns realize with a simple vote in the congress, some of their personal freedoms could be taken away. this may be the first of many. therefore they will rally behind the ted cruz argument. >> bret: on the flip side, mara, obviously the sandy hook families and others are out and about talking about this every day. >> that is right. not necessarily this particular piece of legislation but universal background checks polled in some states over 90% support. this one is a little harder. people are split on this. >> bret: that is it for the panel. stay tupeed to see one recent news story that is just plain messy. most people think that after an accident,
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